Comments on: athletic http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/ Sun, 06 Jul 2008 03:29:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Jay http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7658 Jay Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:37:48 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7658 Hockey? Please. Toughness does not equal athleticism. NBA players are some of the most athletic people on this planet. Many are off the charts in any measure of athleticism you can imagine. Speed? Check. Vertical leap? Check. Agility? Check. Strength? Check. Stamina? Check. Coordination? Check. Along with certain NFL players (WRs, RBs, DBs, and a few other guys at various positions like Jevon Kearse, etc.), NBA players are the freakish athletes, way above the level of hockey players. Playing on ice? While difficult, it really doesn't demonstrate some extraordinary athletic talent. Are you gonna tell me that water polo players are more athletic than basketball players because they play in water? I don't think so. Hockey? Please. Toughness does not equal athleticism.

NBA players are some of the most athletic people on this planet. Many are off the charts in any measure of athleticism you can imagine.

Speed? Check.
Vertical leap? Check.
Agility? Check.
Strength? Check.
Stamina? Check.
Coordination? Check.

Along with certain NFL players (WRs, RBs, DBs, and a few other guys at various positions like Jevon Kearse, etc.), NBA players are the freakish athletes, way above the level of hockey players.

Playing on ice? While difficult, it really doesn’t demonstrate some extraordinary athletic talent. Are you gonna tell me that water polo players are more athletic than basketball players because they play in water? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Joe http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7437 Joe Thu, 08 May 2008 19:51:03 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7437 I can. Watching Mario or Wayne attempt to drive to the hoop using both their right and left hands while spinning and jumping at the same time. Yikes. Again, just because it's on ice does not mean these guys are better athletes but it seems that no matter how many times I say this, you ain't gonna hear it. Agility tests, Kenny. You can't honestly say that hockey players would out-perform bball players, can you? I can. Watching Mario or Wayne attempt to drive to the hoop using both their right and left hands while spinning and jumping at the same time. Yikes.

Again, just because it’s on ice does not mean these guys are better athletes but it seems that no matter how many times I say this, you ain’t gonna hear it.

Agility tests, Kenny. You can’t honestly say that hockey players would out-perform bball players, can you?

]]> By: kenny http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7436 kenny Thu, 08 May 2008 19:31:04 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7436 oh my... I can't think of a clumsier, less agile moment in sports history than seeing Shaq on skates. oh my… I can’t think of a clumsier, less agile moment in sports history than seeing Shaq on skates.

]]> By: Joe http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7408 Joe Sun, 04 May 2008 12:59:32 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7408 Kenny, a few feet above? Hardly, my friend. You must not be taking in any of the NBA within the past two decades because these guys are definitely doing things in the air that you can't even begin to imagine. It's simply amazing. And physicality? I get that hockey players get in fights (big deal with all that gear on!) but until you've sat court-side (I've had that pleasure when the Knicks played the Heat with a healthy Shaq) then you can't speak to the physicality of bball. Again, simply amazing. I hear a lot about how old bball players are beat up and can hardly walk (see Bill Walton) but nothing about the bodies of hockey players when they get old. And you can't hardly bring points scored into the equation when hockey is a defensive game and bball is an offensive game. That's just not good criteria. And once again, degree of difficulty is up in the air. I highly doubt that a bball player could get on ice and do the things a hockey player could do but I KNOW that a hockey player couldn't get on a court and do the things a bball player can do. Again, I try to picture both these athletes in neutral agility tests and the hockey player doesn't stand a chance. Kenny, a few feet above? Hardly, my friend. You must not be taking in any of the NBA within the past two decades because these guys are definitely doing things in the air that you can’t even begin to imagine. It’s simply amazing. And physicality? I get that hockey players get in fights (big deal with all that gear on!) but until you’ve sat court-side (I’ve had that pleasure when the Knicks played the Heat with a healthy Shaq) then you can’t speak to the physicality of bball. Again, simply amazing. I hear a lot about how old bball players are beat up and can hardly walk (see Bill Walton) but nothing about the bodies of hockey players when they get old. And you can’t hardly bring points scored into the equation when hockey is a defensive game and bball is an offensive game. That’s just not good criteria. And once again, degree of difficulty is up in the air. I highly doubt that a bball player could get on ice and do the things a hockey player could do but I KNOW that a hockey player couldn’t get on a court and do the things a bball player can do. Again, I try to picture both these athletes in neutral agility tests and the hockey player doesn’t stand a chance.

]]> By: kenny http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7407 kenny Sun, 04 May 2008 12:09:02 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7407 lol.. c'mon guys... it's not like spinning in the air to dunk a basketball happens in a 3rd or 4th dimension. It's still the same plane, you're just a few feet above it. I've gotta go hockey again, athleticism should be measured not just by stamina and agility, but also by physicality in the game and degree of difficulty. Single players scoring 30+ points in a game compared to maybe 3 goals total in hockey? Seems like that points to hockey being a tad more difficult, and by judging ALL the criteria, making hockey players the most athletic in your big 4 sports. lol.. c’mon guys… it’s not like spinning in the air to dunk a basketball happens in a 3rd or 4th dimension. It’s still the same plane, you’re just a few feet above it. I’ve gotta go hockey again, athleticism should be measured not just by stamina and agility, but also by physicality in the game and degree of difficulty. Single players scoring 30+ points in a game compared to maybe 3 goals total in hockey? Seems like that points to hockey being a tad more difficult, and by judging ALL the criteria, making hockey players the most athletic in your big 4 sports.

]]> By: Irene http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7386 Irene Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:23:28 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7386 Philip and Joe chose BASKETBALL??? I'm fainiting!! :D Philip and Joe chose BASKETBALL??? I’m fainiting!! :D

]]> By: Philip http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7385 Philip Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:11:42 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7385 As far as MLB, I have two words: John Kruk. I also agree with Joe on basketball. I think hockey requires a great deal of stamina and athleticism but is played on a single plane. Basketball is played on the ground AND in the air. It also requires the full participation of every player on the floor at all times. You say soccer is more athletic? I played and coached soccer. Yes, it requires a lot of ability and stamina but rarely are 100% of the players on the field moving 100% of the time that the ball is in play. Even in hockey, I respect what a goalie does but that's one player on the team that rarely moves more than 3 feet to either side no matter where the puck is. I go with basketball! As far as MLB, I have two words: John Kruk.
I also agree with Joe on basketball. I think hockey requires a great deal of stamina and athleticism but is played on a single plane. Basketball is played on the ground AND in the air. It also requires the full participation of every player on the floor at all times. You say soccer is more athletic? I played and coached soccer. Yes, it requires a lot of ability and stamina but rarely are 100% of the players on the field moving 100% of the time that the ball is in play. Even in hockey, I respect what a goalie does but that’s one player on the team that rarely moves more than 3 feet to either side no matter where the puck is. I go with basketball!

]]> By: Joe http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7383 Joe Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:45:52 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7383 Once again, Jason, let me outline to you what I thought was obvious in the original post: we're talking professional athletes. Not two year old kids with a nerf hoop. And by the way, I've seen you play bball - there's nothing easy about that. :) Once again, Jason, let me outline to you what I thought was obvious in the original post: we’re talking professional athletes. Not two year old kids with a nerf hoop. And by the way, I’ve seen you play bball - there’s nothing easy about that. :)

]]> By: J-Wild http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7382 J-Wild Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:42:28 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7382 Basketball is the most accessible and playable sport by the general population (of the US). Why is that...because it's easy. That's right I said it, basketball is easy. Anyone can dribble, pass, and shoot a basketball. Heck I have a great video of my son at two years old doing just that (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouTO9q4peWk" rel="nofollow">see here</a>)! Here is how the athleticism should be ranked...with proof to back it up! Video Proof: 1. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFmaTQDXjyw&feature=related" rel="nofollow">Hockey Video</a> 2. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOILhzumRHQ&feature=related" rel="nofollow">Football Video</a> 3. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rut1LkEhmKQ&feature=related" rel="nofollow">Basketball Video</a> Basketball is the most accessible and playable sport by the general population (of the US). Why is that…because it’s easy. That’s right I said it, basketball is easy. Anyone can dribble, pass, and shoot a basketball. Heck I have a great video of my son at two years old doing just that (see here)!

Here is how the athleticism should be ranked…with proof to back it up!

Video Proof:
1. Hockey Video
2. Football Video
3. Basketball Video

]]> By: skipper http://ccfb.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/athletic/#comment-7380 skipper Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:45:40 +0000 http://ccfb.wordpress.com/?p=1120#comment-7380 I'll concede that baseball players may not be the most athletic and basketball is the most "athletic" sport, as long as you acknowledge Jeremiah's comment about baseball players being the "smartest"!!!! Deal or no deal?? Uncle Stan I’ll concede that baseball players may not be the most athletic and basketball is the most “athletic” sport, as long as you acknowledge Jeremiah’s comment about baseball players being the “smartest”!!!! Deal or no deal??

Uncle Stan

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